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Winemaker 2 Winemaker: Nik Weis of St. Urbans-Hof in the Mosel

Nikolaus (Nik) Weis is the third generation of his family to manage the winery founded by his grandfather, Nicolaus Weis, in 1947. Hermann, Nik’s father, carried on the traditions established by founder Nicolaus increasing the winery’s acreage further and, today, Nik manages the winery’s 35 hectares (87 acres) in the Mosel and Saar Valleys and is responsible for overseeing operations and sales of this second largest privately owned family winery in the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer.  Nik has a degree in Viticulture and Enology from Geisenheim and has worked and studied in Champagne, Canada’s Niagara Peninsula and the Nahe in Germany.  Nik works diligently to preserve the traditions of German winemaking and establish St. Urbans-Hof as a leader of innovation and quality in the region.

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NC: How did you first become interested in wine?  
 
NW: The first time I seriously tasted wine at our family winery at the age of 15 I liked the taste so much, that it was clear to me that I wanted to become a winemaker. Also, at the same time my sister started her education in restaurant business and I got some insight into fine dining for the first time. I loved those places, where fine wines were consumed. I still love everything about it. Later on I got started to travel wine regions and started to love the places where wine is produced. Today, besides my love for the making of wine, I also enjoy being in the wine business selling my wines and broadening the distribution. You get to meet a lot of people and that’s a great thing. 
 
NC: Your wife, Daniela, and her family seem to be very much involved in the success of your wines.  Were you in the industry before you met your wife?
NW: Yes, I had graduated from the winemaking university in Geisenheim and I had already worked at Weingut St.Urbans-Hof for 3 years, when I met Daniela. She was studying business at that time. Even though she is from a family wine business she had promised herself to never get married to a winemaker. She broke that promise! Thank God! After we got married and she had graduated from university with the degree of an MBA, she even purchased her own vineyards, which are part of the St. Urbans-Hof vineyard portfolio. Her father helps me to find good grapes for our URBAN Riesling. Part of them he supplies himself from his vineyards.
NC: The Mosel is one of the most iconic wine growing regions in the world.  What is the most challenging aspect of growing high quality Riesling there?  
 
NW: The great reputation of the Mosel is based on the top vineyard sites that are located on steep slopes and where the vines grow on a fantastic highly decomposed slate soil. Given the fact that the vineyards are extremely steep, we will never be able to compete with the production costs of other wine regions where viticulture is done on flat land. We only have two choices: Make the effort and practice an intense, expensive and thoughtful viticulture in order to achieve a wine quality that is so good and a wine style that is so unique that people are willing to pay a higher price for the wines and for all these efforts it takes to produce them, or we just let goats graze on the slopes and we produce goat cheese. :)
 
NC: I love your 10 Points Philosophy on your website!  You reference keeping the Riesling grape’s path to the bottle as short and as undisturbed as possible.  What do you think the key factors in this gentle path are during the vinification process?  
 
NW: Wine is not made. It grows and develops. It’s a Genesis. It’s better to let nature take it’s course rather than interfere too much. You will hear this from a lot of winemakers, but I really mean it. If you do too much with your wine you either get components in it that are too much or you take things out that are going to be missing later on. Your wines gets out of balance. And the three most important things in a wine start with a “B”:
Balance, Balance and Balance!
 
NC: You also speak about “very gentle filtration.” What does that mean and how important do you feel this is to your wine quality?
 
NW: Gentle filtration for White Wines to me means either no filtration or in case of Mosel wines with a bit of natural residual sweetness it means filtering with filter pads made of cellulose. You have to use as many pads as your filter can take to keep the pressure down. In addition you got to water it really well in the beginning before you filter the wine. This way you get a very neutral, gentle and effective filtering process. 
 
NC: How do you achieve the delicate balance between sweetness and acid in your wines?  Do you wait for the yeast to stop the fermentation on their own or do you stop the fermentation through some other means to retain a balanced level of sugar?
NW: I just taste the wine while it is fermenting. I have one of the greatest Riesling cellar master in my cellar That there is. Together with him, I follow the development of the wines as they ferment. We both consult when there is the best moment to stop the fermentation. This decision is only done by our taste. Not by numbers. I don’t want to digitalize my winemaking decisions. When we think the wine has it’s perfect balance, it’s what we think perfect balance should be like. This is one aspect of the art of Mosel Wine Making. Sometimes the wine slows down or stops fermenting by itself, but usually we have to stop the fermentation by chilling it down and giving it it’s regular sulphur dose.
NC: Early in your career was there a single person who you felt was an important inspiration for your style or did you pull from multiple sources?
 
NW: Multiple sources: 
 
The wines of JJ Prüm inspire me still today and so does Carl von Schubert of Maximin Grünhaus. 
 
NC: Do you have a winemaking mistake in your past that you remember to this day? 
 
NW: We all make mistakes. I have made a lot of them. You learn from those mistakes. Just to name a few: Too much skin contact, too much leaf thinning, too much of this and too much of that…  It is never just one thing that makes a great wine. 
NC: If you could share only one or two things with younger winemakers, what would be the most valuable pieces of knowledge or experience that you pass on?
 
NW: Taste as many wines from as many wine regions as possible. And taste as many famous wines as possible. There is a reason why they are so famous. 
 
NC: Can you describe your philosophy on winemaking in haiku?
NW: Buy a great vineyard.
         Work hard in it.
         Don’t do too much in cellar.
NC: Are you working on any exciting projects now that you would like to share?
 
NW: Yes, my winemaker friend Martin Foradori from Weingut Hofstätter Tramin in Alto Adige and myself just invested in the most famous winery in Ockfen in the Saar Valley. It’s the Dr. Fischer Estate. Together with Johannes Fischer from the Fischer family we are giving this old traditional estate a new boost.

Winemaker 2 Winemaker: Heinz Frischengruber of Domaine Wachau in Austria

This month’s interview is with Heinz Frischengruber of Domaine Wachau in Austria. Frischengruber grew up at his family’s winery in the Wachau then went on to study viticulture in LFZ Klosterneuburg College, Austria, Geisenheim University, Germany focusing on oenology and beverage technology, and FH Burgenland University of Applied Sciences studying international wine marketing. He has extensive international experience working in Austria, Germany, South Africa and California. For the past 10 years he has been at Domäne Wachau in Dürnstein as the Chief Winemaker.

DW_Heinz Frischengruber_1 (c)Domäne Wachau-Wurnig

NC: How did you first become interested in wine?  Did the profession run in your family or were you inspired to follow your own path to the wine industry?

HF: I was born and raised at a Wachau winery. Even as a kid, I would often spend my afternoons helping my parents in the vineyards while my peers were off playing football. From that it’s quite surprising that at the age of 15, I decided to study at the Klosterneuburg college of viticulture which turned out to be just right for me- it turned into a real passion and never had a single doubt again that the wine business was where I wanted to be.

NC: When you were starting down the path of winemaking was there a single person who you felt was an important inspiration for your style or did you pull from multiple sources?

HF: Beyers Truter from South Africa and Wolfgang Pfeiffer from Geisenheim most probably. These two guys were a true inspiration for me- not so much when it comes to the style of wine I make today but very general on how great wine is made. Beyers was a true believer in loyalty and continuity, he getting to know your terroir was a lifetime job. If you want to make great wine, you have to know every aspect involved in it, the tiny details as well as the big piture. If you wander from one winery to the next to make wine you are missing out on that experience. Wolfgang taught me to break down scientific facts to an applicable basis for my everyday work and to use a very holistic approach in what I do. My wine style itself is not inspired by a single person, it’s inspired by the wines‘ origin.

NC: What do you feel is the most distinguishing feature of the Wachau’s vineyards?

HF: Wachau yields some of the world’smost characterful wines, very puristic, offering lots of drinking pleasure. Still fascinating for me is the Wachau’s diversity, the different single-vineyards and the wines the produce depending on their specific soils and microclimates. Making wine in the Wachau is ever so simple- you have the terroir, you have the best grapes one can wish for and the rest is really just preservation of what’s already there.

NC: Domaine Wachau is one of the largest wineries in Austria.  How do you maintain quality year over year?

HF: To me, it doesn’t matter if a winery is big or small. As long as you know what you’re doing, as long as you are good at your job, size does not matter.  I see it as a big asset that we have 250 passionate, experienced and diligent winegrowers to support us and who do a great job in the vineyards for us. And of course it’s the Wachau, the terroir, the social and cultural roots we all have here that enable us make great wine.

NC: In relation to quality improvement programs in the vineyards, what did you see was missing when you began your quest for improvement?  What actions did you take to make changes and are you seeing good results from those actions?

HF: When I first took over, there was plenty of work to do in the cellar but this is something that can happen quite quickly if you are determined to get it done. At the same time, we started looking at the vineyards, we wanted to continuously improve the grape quality and this is what really takes time.

Our viticulture on the steep vineyard terraces of the Wachau is very cost intensive, therefore we see it as our responsibility to make the most of the grapes we get (both in terms of quality but also regarding the financial reward for our growers).

The improvements in grape quality must be something people can taste- improved origin character, getting the essence of the single-vineyard into the bottle is what it’s all about.

With every year and vintage that passed by we gained experience, we became more confident and we took more risk. We could draw from our experience and make better decisions.  For me, the most important factors to make decisions regarding harvest time and winemaking is what I can actually see and taste in the vineyard during the year:  weather during the vegetation period plays an important role and so does the specific vineyard the grapes grow in.  All this information gives you important clues on when to pick the grapes and how to treat them in the cellar.

Important are healthy and vital soils, we want no herbicides or pesticides in our vineyards as they destroy the beneficial organisms in the vineyard. Very few other winegrowing regions in the world have a similar biodiversity as the Wachau with its fascinating flora and fauna.

What we still have to learn is to see and watch and interpret. Indicator plants, physique of the vine etc. are things we have to start seeing as a whole. From what I have learned so far, this will need a lifetime experience. The past 10 years have only shown me that I am only just starting to understand the Wachau.

NC: Is there a vintage in your career that you would like to experience again?

HF: 2007 and 2013 were fantastic, I personally love these vintages. 2014 helped me stretch my horizon, I learned a lot from this vintage (even though it made my hair turn even more grey…)

NC: During your travels in your early career, did you ever find a spot where you would choose to make wine again if you couldn’t make wine in Austria?

HF: There are a lot of fantastic places in the world, like Mosel, Burgundy, and Piedmont. I was always a big fan of South Africa as well, it’s a wonderful country.  But when I really think about alternatives, I don’t think there could be any for me. I was born in the Wachau and even though I have seen a bit of the world I still feel that there’s so much left to learn about the Wachau and its terroir and all the single-vineyards that it will easily keep me occupied for the next 20 years. And then I’m probably too old to start somewhere new…

NC: What was one of the most memorable winemaking mistakes you ever made that you still think about to this day?

HF: Hard to say! I have a distant memory of a red wine pump-over into a Chardonnay tank during my first internship…. J I think what I had to learn over the years was to be more relaxed, listen to my gut feeling, especially when it comes to harvesting times and decisions involved. I had to learn to take more risk and stay calm at the same time.

NC: If you could share only one or two things with younger winemakers, what would be the most valuable piece of knowledge or experience that you pass on?

HF: It’s all about passion! Und cool bleiben (And stay cool)!

NC: Can you describe your philosophy on winemaking in haiku?

HF:       Herbstnebelschleier (Veils of Autumn Fog)

Nasse Kälte weicht   (Wet Cold Makes Way for)

Goldene Sonne         (Golden Sun)

(sorry but if you’re asking for Haiku, you have to take it in German 😉

NC: Are you working on any exciting projects now that you would like to share?

HF: We have been working on different exciting projects over last years. It helps is to learn and gain more experience. We make a fantastic Rosé Reserve in a style that’s rather unusual for Austria, we experiment with no- sulfur wines, prolonged skin contact,…. Lots of new things going on in our old cellar.

If you are interested in purchasing some of Heinz’s wines here in the US please visit Vin Divino.

Special Thanks to Anne Krebiehl, MW for the German Translations.

Photo courtesy of Domain Wachau.

 

 

 

 

 

What does “Craft” mean anyway?

Geoffrey Chaucer once wrote

“The lyf so short, the craft so longe to Lerne.”

There has been much publicity recently about the rise of “craft” beverages, mainly beer and spirits as of this point.  There has also been some disagreement as to what “craft” actually means.  Several lawsuits have come up in the recent months targeted towards brewers that are positioning themselves as “craft” brewers however are in actuality much larger than the consumer may believe based on their marketing. Such is the case with this lawsuit, recently posted on Lehrman Beverage Law.  This got me thinking about what craft is supposed to mean and why are only small producers considered craft.  The Brewers Association has even gone out of their way to post a definition of what they consider a “craft” brewer.  The main three guidelines of their definition is that the brewer must be small, independent, and traditional.  In combing through the TTB’s website, I don’t think that there is a legal definition of craft and so far it seems to be up to the industry itself to regulate this term, much like the term “Reserve” in wine.

Let’s look at the literal definitions from Webster’s Dictionary.

There are three ways the word “craft” can be used.

Two are nouns.

1) An activity involving skill in making things by hand

2) a boat or ship.

Obviously it is the first one that we are interested here.

The third is a verb as in “to craft”.

3) Exercise skill in making something.

I have made wine for 12 years now.  I’ve made wine in sizes from 2 cases all the way up to 1.7 million cases. It takes great skill to make wine in any size.  You do have less room for error in the smaller case counts however you have less time to perfect your wine at the larger case counts.  It takes a long time to master winemaking regardless of the size you are working with.  What does this have to do with craft beer?  The interesting thing that struck me while reading the above lawsuit was that it seemed the main argument is that the beer can not be “crafted” due to the large number of cases that are produced under the label.  It made me think about the brew master who I’m sure is working diligently every day to make sure each and every case of Blue Moon is crafted in the same high quality way and likely doesn’t get the credit that I’ve seen smaller brewers get.  Maybe I’m comparing brewing to the wine industry too much however, I’ve seen the same thing happen in wine as well.  Well made wines at the entry level in the marketplace do not get the same respect that wines at the top of the market do.

The “craft” is the profession as a whole; either brewmaster, winemaker, or master distiller.  One cannot say that because one label is a larger production than another that it does not fall under the craft of brewing, winemaking, or distilling.  Our industries are fortunate because they still require a human to produce the product. Unlike other crafts such as woodworking or metal smithing, which have largely been taken over by machines of mass production, the production of beer, wine, and spirits still needs someone to oversee the process.  Of course, there have been improvements in technology, monitoring and efficiency but the key remains that in all three of these beverage industries, regardless of price point, you need someone to craft the beer, wine, or spirit.

Please don’t misunderstand.  I am very excited by the craft movement and the drink local philosophy that comes with it.  With the three tier set up in this country it is REALLY hard for small producers to make a name for themselves but now it seems the consumer is searching these small, independent producers out.  This is FANTASTIC for the industry particularly in a country where the majority of the population still doesn’t drink at all!  I just wanted to put my two cents out to not take the brewer’s association definition of craft too seriously and to remember that even behind that bottle of medium or large production beverage, there is a craftsman (or woman) working hard to perfect their craft.